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Mar
09

Eliseo Soriano vs. Felix Manalo: Who Abandoned Who?

Ang Dating Daan or The Old Path is an award-winning religious program hosted by the only sensible preacher of our time, Bro. Eliseo Soriano. It airs all over the Philippines and in different parts of the globe for almost three decades now through radio, television, internet and satellite broadcast. The Old Path preaches the Word of God steadfastly, casting down wrong teachings, erroneous doctrines and false accusations of ministers of different religions.

Bro. Eli leads The Old Path program and is always at the frontline. He does not hide like other preachers whose shadows cannot even be seen on television. Members of the Church of God International, the church Bro. Eli leads, are witnesses to his activities even when he is outside the Philippines. Biblically speaking, one of the qualities of a preacher who was given by God the duty to preach His words is COURAGE. He does not hide when it comes to fulfilling his duty of preaching the Word of God by any means possible, in all places reachable, just like what Bro. Eli is doing right now.

Unlike the leaders of the Iglesia ni Cristo, a Philippines-based religious sect founded by the late Felix Manalo, what they do is recruit excommunicates from MCGI and use them as puppets to speak against Bro. Eli and the congregation he leads. Some of these MCGI-excommunicates-turned-INC-puppets are Bernardo Santiago, an adulterer who took someone else’s wife and destroyed a family; Daniel “Puto” Veridiano, a rapist of 14 or more minors; and many others who have done abominable things in the Church of God, including Crispy Perez, Freeman Maynes, Nick Abadiano, Yvette Diolata and Lina Gonzalez.

The style of lying of these INC recruits lies on the same line, suggesting they were guided. In their program Ang Tamang Daan (The Right Path), a failed imitation of The Old Path program, the speakers hired by Manalo are blatant liars. After all, it is Manalo who teaches all speakers in their program what to speak. It is not surprising that they would speak terrible lies, because that is the spirit that reigns in their congregation. The head of the Iglesia ni Manalo attests to this. Let us hear what Eraño Manalo, executive minister of the church founded by his father, has to say regarding his workers and ministers.

TRANSCRIPT:

Eraño Manalo: Ngayon, kung ang isang manggagawa, mga kapatid, sinungaling, hindi pwedeng manindigan. Kung ang isang manggagawa kakampi sa katiwalian, hindi pwedeng manindigan. Kung ang isang manggagawa siya pang nagtuturo ng katiwalian, eh lalong masamang manggagawa ito. Wala nang sariling paninindigan ay siya pang kasangkapan ng diablo. Eh sino ho iyang ganyang manggagawa? Maraming manggagawa natin, halos lahat ganyan.

TRANSLATION:

Eraño Manalo: Now, brethren, if a worker is a liar, he cannot stand firm. If a worker is an ally of corruption, he cannot stand firm. If a worker himself teaches corruption, this worker is much more evil. Having no conviction, he is even an instrument of the devil. And who are these workers? Many of our workers, almost all, are like that.

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That is the kind of workers and ministers Eraño Manalo has. Almost all of them are liars and cannot stand for the truth. That is why it is noticeable that the direction of thoughts of the speakers in their program is to speak various lies against Bro. Eli and the Church of God. They even said that Bro. Eli had abandoned the brethren in the Philippines. Such a blatant lie will only work against the blind. Members of the Church of God and followers of Bro. Eli’s program are not blind, however; they are not stupid. They are witnesses to Bro. Eli’s global evangelical pursuit through Bible expositions shown everyday in UNTV and in other channels.

Just because they don’t see Bro. Eli standing on stage in Ang Dating Daan Convention Center in Apalit, Pampanga every Saturday doesn’t mean that the preacher had abandoned the brethren in the Philippines.  This idea is just the imagination of the ministers of Manalo, which they feed their viewers in Ang Tamang Daan. If it isn’t cheap and stupid, how will anyone believe such fantasy when every week brethren and guests hear and see Bro. Eli Soriano and Bro. Daniel Razon preaching through live video streaming not only in the Philippines but all over the globe? These two preachers of God are partners in teaching the brethren during worship services, thanksgiving days and other activities, while delegating minor tasks to the ministers-in-charge so that they may attend to greater responsibilities like Bible expositions that cater to non-Filipinos in different countries.

natakot sa haponNow, speaking of cowardice, there is a preacher, a leader, who in fear of the Japanese military relinquished his administrative duty and leadership and transferred it to someone else. It is written in their Pasugo, Iglesia ni Manalo’s official magazine, published on October 1965. On page 21, it says:

TRANSLATION:

“Beloved brethren:

“Presently, Brother Prudencio Vasquez is presiding over the Church. This is what the Japanese wants. Let us obey. Do not be anxious because they have the power in our country. My duty is given by God; the same is your faith. I remain in the Church and in what God gave me. This is also what I am asking of you that you should not forsake your faithful and wholehearted love of God, in Christ our Lord, in the Word of God written in the Bible, in the Iglesia ni Kristo in the Philippines and in the Pasugo of God in the Last Day. This short letter of mine should be clear to you and is sufficient to express that we have an understanding just like before.”

This circular was issued by Felix Manalo on June 29, 1942. He said that he was not shaken by the Japanese and that he remains in his duty. This coward, if he was not shaken, why would he transfer his administration to Prudencio Vasquez? He made it clear himself. “This is what the Japanese wants.” That is clear. That is not an accusation. Felix Manalo was the one who wrote that. That is a reality in the Iglesia ni Manalo which, ironically, they throw against Bro. Eli.

Imagine, abandoning your God-given duty in fear of whatsoever power or present danger? Such a coward is not a true preacher of God. Now they say it is Bro. Eli who abandoned the brethren in the Philippines. These liars, they are the ones actually doing what they accuse Bro. Eli of.


13 Responses to “Eliseo Soriano vs. Felix Manalo: Who Abandoned Who?”


  1. March 6, 2009 at 6:42 am

    Who abandoned who? Tinatanong pa ba yan? Of course, it’s Manalo!

    LONG LIVE BRO. ELI SORIANO! WE LOVE YOU…

  2. March 7, 2009 at 8:58 am

    Ms. Jordan, thank you very much for posting this truthful and sincere report.

    You know, very rarely that the side of Preacher Soriano is aired in Philippine media. The smear campaign against him is really filled with lies, deceits, malice and dubious data.

    Worst still, the national dailies in my country are swayed and can be influenced by the powerful sects, most of which are against Bro. Soriano because he bravely exposes the shenanigans and corrupt practices in these groups such as the church founded by Felix Manalo.

    Here is an article posted online eight months ago by Christian Post about the extent of discrimination being hurled against Bro. Soriano and his group, Ang Dating Daan (The Old Path).

    Follow the link here: http://ph.christianpost.com/article/editorial/6/section/religious.discrimination.against.the.people.of.%93ang.dating.daan%94.gets.bitter/1.htm

    >>>>>>>

    Thanks for sharing with us the link, Bookishponyo.

    I agree with you that Bro. Eli’s person has been for decades subject to injustice and character assassination mostly from religious organizations that are backed-up by government powers in the Philippines. None other religious leader in the country suffers the same persecution, inasmuch as none other bravely exposes the filthy works of these hypocrites who wear sheep’s clothes that they may employ their modus operandi.

    As long as government officials allow themselves to be influenced by these false preachers, we cannot hope for any betterment in our society as a whole. If they are able to treat unfairly a prominent preacher as Bro. Eli, much more they can persecute citizens who don’t have the power to voice out their grievances.

  3. March 19, 2009 at 1:04 am

    Hindi po namin maintindihan kung bakit ang mga kaanib sa INC e nananatiling naniniwala sa kanilang mga SUGO RAW na mangangaral na hindi mo man lang makitaan na nangangaral kahit 5 minuto man lang sa TV o sa Radyo na siyang dapat na pangunahing gawain ng isang Sugo ng Dios. Wala silang patunay na mangangaral nga ang kanilang mga MANALO. Ni hindi mo man lang matanong ng tungkol sa aral ng Biblia. Takot ba sila na malaman ng mga members nila na wala talaga silang alam at hindi nila kayang ipagtanggol ang kanilang pananampalataya? OBVIOUS na po di po ba?

    I-consider sana ng mga members nila ang mga bagay na ito sa kanilang pagsusuri. Malinaw po ang sinasabi ng kasulatan sa Matthew 15:14.

    Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

    Members ng INC, payag ba kayo na mahulog sa hukay kasama ng inyong mga sugo na walang alam na aral sa Biblia???

    Konting isip lang po.

    Salamat po sa Dios!

    >>>>>>>

    Dominik,

    I agree with you that these Manalos are ignorant of the doctrines of the Bible, and yet their members stay there because they were brainwashed. That is the reason why they choose to believe their preachers although there are already questions in their minds. From childhood they were being taught that Christ is a man and that Felix Manalo is an angel, so that is what’s inculcated in their hearts. And in the Iglesia ni Cristo, angels are higher than men in the hierarchy of creation. That is their teaching, which is very erroneous. Felix Manalo is being presented to the public as someone of higher stature than the Lord Jesus Christ.

    But, of course, if you are a member of the Iglesia ni Cristo, you will be angry when you hear someone saying that you are being brainwashed. Of course you will not accept it. Worse, you are incapable of accepting it because, in the first place, you are brainwashed. Just like a child who has been taught by a foolish teacher that the color of his blood is green, when he grows old and someone tells him that the real color of his blood is red, he will not believe it, unless he starts to investigate the truth.

  4. July 28, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    anong hindi nakikita sa tv!..meron no!sa net 25!…maraming programa ang Iglesia Ni Cristo via mass media, meron din sa GEM..hindi nyo kasi inililipat sa ibang channel tv nyo!…

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    zonelyn abad,

    The issue here is not whether Iglesia ni Cristo has television programs or not; the issue is, the fact that you do have these programs yet your preachers Eraño and Eduardo Manalo cannot preach even for just one hour. It’s because they are imbeciles! They only care about your money. But to preach on TV? They will not do that because they aren’t really preachers of the gospel. They are businessmen whose primary merchandise is the souls of those whom they deceive, including you.

  5. July 31, 2009 at 1:48 am

    hindi kailangan ng mga erano mag preach sa tv. hindi naman sila nagtatago sa ibang bansa tulad ng ibang tao diyan. kaya nagppreach sa tv yung iba diyan kasi nga hindi makabalik ng pilipinas at sigurado pag bumalik yun dito, kung hindi man makulong eh siguradong pupugutan ng ulo ng mga muslim. hahaha

    >>>>>>>

    Nicolai,

    Manalo doesn’t need to preach on TV? That is not the case. It’s not because he doesn’t need to, it’s because he CANNOT preach on TV. He’s afraid that if he does preach on television, his empire, his business, which is the Iglesia ni Cristo, will inevitably collapse. He knows that there is a Bro. Eli Soriano who is always ready to point out one by one his erroneous teachings to the public.

  6. 6 zonelyn abad
    August 16, 2009 at 5:09 am

    dominik,
    naniniwala kami na si Felix Manalo ang sugo sa mga huling araw dahil naiintindihan namin ang mga salita ng Dios na nakasulat sa Bibliya…kayo, papanig talaga kayo sa relihiyon na inyong kinaaniban dahil hindi kayo nagsesearch o nagtra try na makinig sa aming relihiyon, hindi niyo alam ang aming mga paniniwala, take note, paniniwalang totoo..ano ba kasing verse sa Bibliya makikita ang inyong relihiyon??teka nga, ano nga ulit ang relihiyon nyo??

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    zonelyn abad,

    You believe that Felix Manalo is the messenger of God even though he wanted to abandon all of you in your church? How foolish of you. But that’s your choice.

    And what about the name of the church in the Bible? Haven’t you read the name “Church of God”? Do you even read the Bible? Have you even read these verses:

    Acts 20:28 –

    Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the CHURCH OF GOD, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

    1 Corinthians 1:2 -

    Unto the CHURCH OF GOD which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

    1 Corinthians 10:32 -

    Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the CHURCH OF GOD:

    1 Corinthians 11:22 -

    What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the CHURCH OF GOD, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.

    1 Corinthians 15:9 -

    For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the CHURCH OF GOD.

    2 Corinthians 1:1 -

    Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the CHURCH OF GOD which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:

    Galatians 1:13 -

    For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews’ religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the CHURCH OF GOD, and wasted it:

    1 Timothy 3:5 -

    (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the CHURCH OF GOD?)

    1 Timothy 3:15 -

    But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the CHURCH OF THE LIVING GOD, the pillar and ground of the truth.

    You should read the Bible so you won’t stay ignorant, zonelyn.

  7. 7 Freude
    September 1, 2009 at 5:05 am

    Napakababaw naman ng blog na ito. Porket di nakikita sa TV na nangagaral ay abandonado na.

    Brother Erdy and Brother Eddie are EXECUTIVE MINISTER and DEPUTY EXECUTIVE MINISTERS. Bakit pa sila haharap sa TV at mangagaral kung marami naman na TV EVANGELISTS ang Iglesia sa ibat ibang language pa?

    Ipinapakita lang nito na ang aming mga mahal na kapatid ay HINDI karismatiko tulad ng maraming mga nagpapakilalang mangangaral ngayon na gustong gusto makita ang mukha sa TV, pati pangalan sa stage, nagsusuot ng catchy na mga damit, mambobola sa mga tao.

    Maraming functions ang aming mahal na kapatid. Pangunahin na dito ay pangagasiwa sa buong Iglesia, pagtuturo at pagpapayo. Ang bahagi ng aming mahal na kapatid ay paghahanda ng lesson at hindi ang pagtuturo mismo.

    Totoo na maraming kapatid sa Iglesia ni Cristo ang naakay kahit di makita ng mukhaan ang aming mahal na kapatid. Ipinapakita lang nito na ang pananampalataya ay hindi nakadepende sa katauhan kundi sa bisa ng tunay na salita ng Diyos.

    Ang aming lider ay hindi commercial commodity na pinupuhunan ang mukha para makaakay ng miyembro. Kahit kailan hindi namin ibinandila ang pangalang MANALO sapagkat ang pangalan ni Cristo ang dapat mahayag.

    Ito rin ang kahayagan na mabisa ang leadeship ni Ka erdy. HIndi ba kahayagan na mabisa ang grupo kapag gumaganap ang lahat ng miyembro nito at hindi ang puno lamang?

    I-compare mo naman kay Soriano na wala na ngayon. Kaya ang ginagawa replay replay na lang ng mga sinaunang video para makadaya pa ng mga tao. Pati pagtuturo ni soriano, wala na ibang gawin ang mga co-host kundi sang-ayon lang ng sang-ayon kahit walang naiintindihan kahit tagabasa lang.

    Nagluluksa man kami ngayon sa pagpanaw ng Ka Erdy pero kahit pumanaw man siya matibay pa rin ang aming pananampalataya.

    >>>>>>>

    Hey, Freude, not being able to see Eraño and Eduardo Manalo preach on television and Felix Manalo’s desire to abandon his church are two different issues which you mixed up. It is not the blog which is shallow but your understanding of it. Please read again the article.

    You see, it is not a valid excuse that because you have TV evangelists your leaders do not need to preach anymore if they are really preachers of God. On the contrary, it should compel them to do so to set an example for those evangelists. You said yourself that Eraño and Eduardo Manalo are executive and deputy executive ministers, therefore you should know that they ought to lead in your church in every manner possible, most especially in preaching. But all they do is hide in their caves.

    I agree with you that there are many charismatic preachers today who love to be seen on TV while they deceive people, and that includes your ministers. But are those false preachers preaching on television an excuse for a preacher of God not to preach on television? That’s stupid. In fact, preachers of God will be compelled to preach on television so that those preachers who deceive people on television will not dominate the homes of those who have televisions. If you are a preacher of God who cares for the souls of men, you will not in any way let these false preachers have the upper hand in mass media.

    Regarding functions in the Church, I never heard Bro. Eli Soriano make excuses for him not to be able to preach on television like how you make excuses for your preachers. Bro. Eli also administers to the Church of God in six continents during Prayer Meetings, Worship Services and Thanksgiving Days and yet he can broadcast. Bro. Eli also prepares lessons and topics to teach to the brethren, and yet he can broadcast. Bro. Eli conducts four Bible expositions a week, while your leaders don’t, and yet he can broadcast. While traveling up to 16 hours on the road going to Bible expositions, he conducts meetings and consultations with ministers and brethren all over the globe, and yet he can broadcast. Bro. Eli faces pastors of different religions in debates, and yet he can broadcast. He’s a very good cook and he cooks for his co-workers who are with him, and yet he can broadcast. Bro. Eli even maintains a blog which is now Philippine Web Awards’ Most Popular Website of the Year, and yet he can broadcast. So, please, enough of your excuses.

    If many of your members were converted to the Iglesia ni Cristo without seeing your leaders, does that justify why your leaders can’t preach on television? Is showing the face of a preacher tantamount to his being a commercial commodity? From what book did you read that? Did the apostles of Christ become commercial commodities when they preached publicly and showed their faces to people? Did Christ become a commercial commodity when He showed His face to the public? Do you not know that the apostles of Christ preferred to speak with their brethren face to face so that their joy may be full rather than write everything with ink and paper? 2 John 1:12 says,

    Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full.

    This means that there is something great in seeing the face of the preacher of God.

    Now, you said that you do not exalt the name Manalo more than Christ, is that true? In Pasugo April, 1939, page 22, it says,

    Si Cristo ang ating tanging Pastor at Obispo ng ating mga kaluluwa (Juan 10:11; I Ped. 2:25).

    That is what Pasugo said back in 1939, “Christ is the only Pastor and Bishop of our souls.” But after less than four decades, in Pasugo August, 1976 issue, page 3, it says,

    Therefore, this Scriptural truth is revealed to us: As long as there is a messenger commissioned by God, Christ could continue establishing His Church. It is precisely through the instrumentality of that one Pastor, realized in the person of Brother Felix Manalo, that Christ established His other sheep into one flock – that is the Church of Christ that emerged in the Philippines in 1914.

    In 1939, Felix Manalo believed that “Christ is the only Pastor and Bishop of our souls,” but in 1976 the Iglesia ni Manalo said that that one Pastor was “realized in the person of Brother Felix Manalo.” Isn’t that stealing the office of the Lord Jesus Christ? And now you say you are not exalting Manalo more than Christ? That is not what Pasugo says.

    Regarding Eraño Manalo’s leadership, how can you say that it was effective when he could not even preach on the most effective media available today? That is not effective leadership, but DEFECTIVE leadership.

    Lastly, you said that Bro. Eli Soriano is “wala na ngayon”; you call his four Bible expositions a week all over the globe via satellite as “wala na ngayon”? You call his blog which has more than 100 entries as “wala na ngayon”? You call his preaching on YouTube.com where everyone who has access to internet can post a video question as “wala na ngayon”? You better check your vocabulary, Freude.

  8. September 1, 2009 at 11:10 am

    they never appeared on any television station for some private and confidentional reasons!! to emily jordan-that is why,you are a member of the so called DATING DAAN…well,we have nothing to do with that if you considered the members of INC are fool,well memebers of DATING DAAN were born to be GREAT FOOLS and UGLY LIARS

    >>>>>>>

    Thank you for admitting that they, your leaders, “never appeared on any television station.” But there is no private and confidential reason why they don’t appear on television to preach. The only reason why they don’t appear is because they CAN’T, because if they can they would have had. They are imbeciles, and they are afraid to preach on television because the public will know how ignorant they are of the words of God in the Bible.

    You said that members of Ang Dating Daan were born to be great fools and ugly liars, do you have proof for that? Let us discuss it if you have any. If you don’t have any, I will give you a proof that even Eraño Manalo knew that ministers of the Iglesia ni Manalo are indeed great liars.

  9. 9 marcus_apostle
    September 1, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    I just found this blog site, it amuzes me. Now i get it. Emily Jordan is with ADD. Uhmm… i think Emily is really blinded by this “facts”. Thank you for making our faith more stronger. Because everytime you say our Leaders and Church is not by the will of God the more we are inspired to let you know that you are indeed wrong. Thank you for your time and yeah, just between you and I… this is all backfiring to you and your religion. So keep up the good work :) hope that you will still see the light amidst the darkness that you are in right now. I will include you.. I mean we will include you in our prayers :)

    >>>>>>>

    It must be amusing to know how Felix Manalo relinquished his administrative duty and leadership and transferred it to someone else in fear of the Japanese military, isn’t it?

    Whether I am from ADD or not, that doesn’t change the fact that Felix Manalo abandoned his duty and wished to abandon his church. You get it now?

  10. 10 Kurangit
    September 3, 2009 at 3:06 am

    Nice video. But better if the whole part of the preaching and not only the selected ones is shared for all to see and understand the point he is making.

    >>>>>>>

    Eraño Manalo: Now, brethren, if a worker is a liar, he cannot stand firm. If a worker is an ally of corruption, he cannot stand firm. If a worker himself teaches corruption, this worker is much more evil. Having no conviction, he is even an instrument of the devil. And who are these workers? MANY OF OUR WORKERS, ALMOST ALL, ARE LIKE THAT.

    That is Eraño Manalo’s point.

  11. 11 zonie'''
    September 4, 2009 at 9:52 am

    ERANO G. MANALO WE LOVE YOU!……
    FELIX Y. MANALO thank you and we love you!
    EDUARDO V. MANALO please continue to lead us in the right way!…..

    GOD BLESS ALL INC MEMBERS!…

    >>>>>>>

    Eduardo V. Manalo indeed continues leading you in the right way… the right way to hell.

  12. 12 Katrina
    September 9, 2009 at 4:19 am

    They don’t preach on television because they are busy preaching in worship services. They were busy looking after the entirety of different locales such as building houses of worships, looking at paperwork for updates on locales. Making the lessons preached during the worship services. Eh si soriano? Nasaan ngayon? Nagtatago!!! If he’d done nothing wrong?? Why hide? Christ didn’t when he ws forsken. Philippines wants him to face d accusations. why is he running away? Becuase he can’t defend whathes done wrong!

    >>>>>>>

    Katrina,

    There is no excuse why your billionaire preachers cannot preach on television. The only reason why they don’t preach on television is because they can’t, because they are imbeciles. They are afraid to preach on television because the public will know how ignorant they are of the words of God in the Bible.

    You cannot use being “busy” as an excuse. A preacher of God cannot be too busy not to be able to preach on television because that is his primary duty, hence he is called “preacher”.

    In face, Bro. Eli also administers to the Church of God in six continents during Prayer Meetings, Worship Services and Thanksgiving Days; he also prepares lessons and topics to teach to the brethren; he conducts four Bible expositions a week, but your leaders don’t; while traveling up to 16 hours on the road going to Bible expositions, he conducts meetings and consultations with ministers and brethren all over the globe via satellite; he faces pastors of different religions in debates; he cooks for his co-workers who are with him; and he even maintains a blog which has now more than 100 entries and was declared The Most Popular Website of the Year by Philippine Web Awards, AND YET HE CAN BROADCAST.

    Can you not make better excuses for your imbecile leaders?

    Where is Bro. Eli Soriano? Who told you that he’s hiding? You didn’t know that he’s conducting four Bible expositions a week, three in America and one in the Philippines? You didn’t know that hundreds of Americans, Africans, natives of Papua New Guinea, and many other races are now joining the Members Church of God International because of his nonstop Bible expositions abroad? You didn’t know that even when he’s outside the Philippines he is able to conduct Bible expositions in the country through the aid of modern technology? You didn’t know that, did you?

    And what do you mean he can’t defend what he’s done wrong? What has he done wrong that he should hide? You call his global evangelization hiding? Bro. Eli Soriano is outside the country but there is nothing that he did before he left the country that he cannot do now. And what about your billionaire preachers? They are in the Philippines but they can’t even conduct a single Bible exposition; they can’t even answer queries of faith on television; they can’t even answer to Bro. Eli’s challenge to a one-on-one debate. How useless.

  13. 13 ispatitay
    December 13, 2009 at 5:18 am

    zonelyn baka kaw ang jgnorante subaybayan mong mabuti ang palakad ng inyong iglesia para di ka maligaw.c manalo lasenggo yan may bodega ng alak sa basement nya.so konting mulat ng mga mata.


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